=8<==[Editors note]=8<== I'll be honest I'm 100% convinced mailinator will ruin the little formatting I have done, I put a copy of this email on https://developer.blender.org/P3014. =8<====8<====8<====8<== How much as I like the sentiment of "lets move to git will it solve all these problems" lets be honest here, git.blender.org's speed is nothing to write home about either it may or may not be as glitchy as svn, but it still wouldn't be fast. from my 300mbit connection in western Canada Receiving objects: 6% (135931/2078159), 33.34 MiB | 458.00 KiB/s total time for a clone off git.blender.org 27m39s Cloning off https://github.com/blender/blender.git however total time for a clone off github.com 1m 52s Now amount of finger pointing to client settings will convince me it's a client setting at this point, but I'll be honest, I am all the way in western Canada and that could definitely be a factor. sooooo, lets investigate! Let’s spin up an AWS EC2 instance in London, I'd say that be close enough to Amsterdam, and let’s rule out any other CPU or Bandwidth related factors as well, I threw a few dollars at it and got a cn5.18xlarge instance (72 CPU’s 192gb memory, 100gbit ethernet) overkill to do a git/svn test? yes.. yes indeed first to rule out the blender.org servers lets grab a ubuntu iso off an .nl mirror ( https://mirror.nl.datapacket.com/ubuntu-releases/22.04/ ) 2022-06-17 17:13:21 (232 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso’ saved [3654957056/3654957056] all right bandwidth is NOT going to be an issue on this box! On to blender stuff: cloning from git.blender.org 2m32.895s svn checkout of lib/win64_vc15 2m56.388s (iftop said 65Mbit peak rate) yowza! All right, so in London, safe to say all is well lets move closer to my location, us-east-2 Ohio (same instance type and os) grabbing ubuntu from that same mirror 2022-06-17 17:31:00 (29.5 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso’ saved [3654957056/3654957056] all right, that has lost quite a bit of steam, but it's still nothing to sneeze at, just to be sure lets grab an iso off the Princeton university mirror 120MB/s ok.. good enough... onto cloning blender Receiving objects: 5% (104235/2078173), 25.44 MiB | 692.00 KiB/s well... that's not looking promising... lets wait it out cloning from git.blender.org 17m23.449s sadface... lets try svn next, i lost patience and did not let it finish.. iftop reported a top RX of 5.59Mbit though.. To summarize: Ubuntu iso from mirror.nl.datapacket.com (Speed taken from wget) My home - western Canada - 1.3 MB/s AWS - London - 232 MB/S AWS - Ohio - 29.5 MB/s Clone of git.blender.org (time taken from linux time command) My home - western Canada - 27m39 AWS - London - 2m32 AWS - Ohio - 17m23 SVN Clone: (peak RX bitrate taken from iftop) My home - western Canada - 1.5 Mbit/s AWS - London - 64 Mbit/s AWS - Ohio - 5.59 Mbit/s Think the only thing we really can conclude is that being further from the server is leading to an "unhappy" time for the developer. Given the fact the EC2 instances were 100% identical between London and Ohio, it's unlikely to be a client configuration issue.